{"id":2314,"date":"2020-03-30T17:09:28","date_gmt":"2020-03-30T16:09:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/?p=2314"},"modified":"2020-04-28T17:51:07","modified_gmt":"2020-04-28T16:51:07","slug":"sympathetic-secondary-glazing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/sympathetic-secondary-glazing\/","title":{"rendered":"Arts and Crafts Secondary Glazing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m retraining to do building conservation work, so if you fancy some Arts and Crafts secondary glazing my email is at the bottom of the page.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Or if you prefer making your own here is a somewhat dimensioned <a href=\"http:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/photos\/secondary-glazing-sections.pdf\">pdf of the profiles<\/a> together with a cutting plan that didn&#8217;t account for the saw blade width.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been messing around with ideas for secondary glazing for the last couple of years.\u00a0 The mainstream secondary glazing seems really ugly and very expensive.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 My bay windows don&#8217;t have any openers so I&#8217;m planning to make a fixed wooden frame with a similar profile to the existing frame.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Here is my prototype.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It doesn&#8217;t quite fit together because of the curve in the bay, but it&#8217;s close enough for me.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2316\" src=\"http:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/secondary-glazing-proof-of-concept-450x338.jpg\" alt=\"secondary-glazing-proof-of-concept\" width=\"450\" height=\"338\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/secondary-glazing-proof-of-concept-450x338.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/secondary-glazing-proof-of-concept-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/secondary-glazing-proof-of-concept.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/secondary-glazing-proof-of-concept-624x468.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Last year I bought a table saw and router table for the work, and enough wood for both bays.\u00a0 Today I have made a start and have been creating sawdust.\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0 As usual I&#8217;ll update this post as I go along.<\/p>\n<p>If you ever buy a table saw make sure it has a cast base with some chance of staying flat.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll be buying another one before doing the big bay window.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/20200330_155535-450x338.jpg\" alt=\"20200330_155535\" width=\"450\" height=\"338\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/20200330_155535-450x338.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/20200330_155535-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/20200330_155535-1000x750.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/20200330_155535-624x468.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The profiles worked out well. \u00a0 My dimensions are a little inconsistant, but there should be some adjustment possible during fitting.\u00a0 The edge mouldings went through a redesign as I realised it would be better to attach them to the window frame rather than the cill and ceiling.<\/p>\n<p>Annoyingly I can&#8217;t figure out how I did some of the radiuses on the protype.\u00a0 I remember putting a lot of thought into it at the time but have forgotten all that now.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2323\" src=\"http:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/glazing-profiles-450x305.jpg\" alt=\"glazing-profiles\" width=\"450\" height=\"305\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/glazing-profiles-450x305.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/glazing-profiles-768x521.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/glazing-profiles.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/glazing-profiles-624x423.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Fitting the glazing frame was time consuming.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The window isn&#8217;t a very consistant shape so it took a little imagination to fit the glazing frame in a way that would accept rectangular glass.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The bay is curved and a 7 degree angle kept cropping up, and not always where I was expecting it.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2325\" src=\"http:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/glazing-fixed-part-450x324.jpg\" alt=\"glazing-fixed-part\" width=\"450\" height=\"324\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/glazing-fixed-part-450x324.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/glazing-fixed-part-768x554.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/glazing-fixed-part.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/glazing-fixed-part-624x450.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Adjusting things to fit and then fixing the glazing frame took 2.5 days in total, more than it took to make the profiles in the first place.\u00a0 After getting everything perfect I added 1mm gaps between the bits of wood to allow for some expansion.\u00a0\u00a0 I&#8217;ll fill those with linseed putty.<\/p>\n<p>Then after all that obvious progress in just half a day.\u00a0\u00a0 I finished off the prep and painted the inside of the window.\u00a0\u00a0 In the photos it looks nice in natural finish, but in the flesh it looks a whole lot nicer in black.\u00a0\u00a0 It&#8217;ll go more matt once the linseed oil paint soaks into the wood and dries.<\/p>\n<p>The glazing at each end is not original.\u00a0 I think someone skipped some rare curved Crittall openers and replaced them with flat glass with some lead stuck on.\u00a0 The middle three panels are curved.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2328\" src=\"http:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/painted-window-450x338.jpg\" alt=\"painted-window\" width=\"450\" height=\"338\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/painted-window-450x338.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/painted-window-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/painted-window.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/painted-window-624x468.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I maged to paint over the numbers on the secondary glazing frame pieces that told me where they fitted and was left with a jigsaw puzzle.<\/p>\n<p>With the frame in place I started cutting the mouldings to size and now my brain hurts.\u00a0 The parts are cut at either 45 degrees, 41 degrees or 49 degrees depending on the moulding width.\u00a0 The 41 degree cuts also have a 7 degree compound angle to account for the curve of the window.\u00a0\u00a0 Gave up and had beer instead.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2335\" src=\"http:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/secondary-glazing-mouldings-450x338.jpg\" alt=\"secondary-glazing-mouldings\" width=\"450\" height=\"338\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/secondary-glazing-mouldings-450x338.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/secondary-glazing-mouldings-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/secondary-glazing-mouldings.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/secondary-glazing-mouldings-624x468.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I found cutting the profiles to shape was much easier when I used an off-cut and cut the ends to fit the angle of the uprights then marked the saw settings on the cut end.\u00a0\u00a0 Once I had the angles it was easy to cut mouldings to the right length and angle.\u00a0\u00a0 The angles were different for every piece, largely because I set the glazing to fit the window and the window isn&#8217;t quite straight.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m very pleased with the finished secondary glazing.\u00a0 It blends in and looks like it could be a part of the original window, and will likely disappear completely once it&#8217;s black.\u00a0\u00a0 I think the glass will stand out much more than the frame being faceted rather than curved, but I&#8217;ll wait until I&#8217;ve finished the big window in the next room before ordering the glass.\u00a0 This job has taken 7 days so far, and it&#8217;ll be interesting to see how much quicker I get on the big bay.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-2338\" src=\"http:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/finished-secondary-glazing-450x351.jpg\" alt=\"finished-secondary-glazing\" width=\"450\" height=\"351\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/finished-secondary-glazing-450x351.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/finished-secondary-glazing-768x599.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/finished-secondary-glazing.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.the-salutation.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/finished-secondary-glazing-624x487.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m retraining to do building conservation work, so if you fancy some Arts and Crafts secondary glazing my email is at the bottom of the page.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Or if you prefer making your own here is a somewhat dimensioned pdf of the profiles together with a cutting plan that didn&#8217;t account for the saw blade width. 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